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 '''ALL Groups:'''
 #Considering the sexual politics of the gaze, how does ''Chocolat'' splice the politics of race and colonialism onto it? See [http://www.tcf.ua.edu/EO/DV/Chocolat_DressingScene.php the scene where Protée helps Aimée dress], in particular.
 #Just because a film is made by a woman does not mean it will necessarily be feminist. Do you think that ''Chocolat'' is pro-feminist? Why or why not?
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 #'''Group 4:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of silence in his video work is different from conventional television. Explain how and compare the use of silence in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with its use (or lack) in ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
 #'''Group 1:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of interviews is different from conventional television. Explain how and compare the interview in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the interview in ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
-#'''Group 2:''' Penley contends that Sonimage's (Godard and Miéville's production company) analysis of representation "does not extend to questioning certain received metaphorizations of the woman's body: woman as state, as machine of reproduction, as sexuality itself." That is, Sonimage is using the woman's body as a metaphor for sexuality and reproduction. We've discussed Godard's use of the nude female body before -- in ''Vivre sa vie'' and ''British Sounds''. How would you compare/contrast the nude pregnant woman in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the nude women in ''Vivre sa vie''? Does he "formally subvert" the inherent exploitation of female nudity?
+#'''Group 2:''' Penley contends that Sonimage's (Godard and Miéville's production company) analysis of representation "does not extend to questioning certain received metaphorizations of the woman's body: woman as state, as machine of reproduction, as sexuality itself." That is, Sonimage is using the woman's body as a metaphor for sexuality and reproduction. We've [[TCF340/Godard and Contemporary Feminism (Discussion)|discussed Godard's use of the nude female body before]] -- in ''Vivre sa vie'' and [http://www.tcf.ua.edu/Classes/Jbutler/T340/BritishSounds.htm ''British Sounds'']. How would you compare/contrast the nude pregnant woman in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the nude women in ''Vivre sa vie''? Does he "formally subvert" the inherent exploitation of female nudity?
 ==Bibliography==

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 ##Socialist Realist
 ##Women's cinema as counter cinema
 ==Bibliography==
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 ==External links==
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/classes/Jbutler/T340/LetterToJane.htm#softandhard ''Soft and Hard'' frame grabs]
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/EO/DV/SoftAndHard.php Video clip of the last shot of ''Soft and Hard'']

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 #'''Group 4:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of silence in his video work is different from conventional television. Explain how and compare the use of silence in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with its use (or lack) in ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
 #'''Group 1:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of interviews is different from conventional television. Explain how and compare the interview in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the interview in ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
-#'''Group 2:''' Penley contends that Sonimage's (Godard and Miéville's production company) analysis of representation "does not extend to questioning certain received metaphorizations of the woman's body: woman as state, as machine of reproduction, as sexuality itself." That is, Sonimage is using the woman's body as a metaphor for sexuality and reproduction. We've discussed Godard's use of the nude female body before -- in ''Vivre sa vie''. How would you compare/contrast the nude pregnant woman in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the nude women in ''Vivre sa vie''?
+#'''Group 2:''' Penley contends that Sonimage's (Godard and Miéville's production company) analysis of representation "does not extend to questioning certain received metaphorizations of the woman's body: woman as state, as machine of reproduction, as sexuality itself." That is, Sonimage is using the woman's body as a metaphor for sexuality and reproduction. We've discussed Godard's use of the nude female body before -- in ''Vivre sa vie'' and ''British Sounds''. How would you compare/contrast the nude pregnant woman in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the nude women in ''Vivre sa vie''? Does he "formally subvert" the inherent exploitation of female nudity?
 '''Pro-feminist or anti-feminist?'''
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 '''ALL Groups:'''
 #Just because a film is made by a woman does not mean it will necessarily be feminist. Do you think that ''Chocolat'' is pro-feminist? Why or why not?
 #If, indeed, it is a feminist film, into which category does it fit? (These categories may overlap.)

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 '''Constance Penley on ''France/tour/détour/deux/enfants'''''
-#'''Group 3:''' Penley argues, "certain movements and gestures are slowed down and then rapidly, yet haltingly, speeded up (...) so that we can see and understand the economy of these actions." Do you think this applies to <i>Soft and Hard</i>? How are slow motion and freeze frames used in this piece?
+#'''Group 3:''' Penley argues, "Both the writing on the image and the different voices over it question the image rather than anchoring its meaning as is usual in television." Explain how and compare the text-over-image in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with graphics in conventional television, such as ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
-#'''Group 2:''' Penley argues, "Both the writing on the image and the different voices over it question the image rather than anchoring its meaning as is usual in television." Do you think this is true of the text appearing on screen in <i>Soft and Hard</i>? What function, if any, does it serve?
+#'''Group 4:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of silence in his video work is different from conventional television. Explain how and compare the use of silence in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with its use (or lack) in ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
-#'''Group 4:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of silence in his video work is different from conventional television. Explain how and whether it applies to ''Soft and Hard''.
+#'''Group 1:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of interviews is different from conventional television. Explain how and compare the interview in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the interview in ''The Dick Cavett Show''.
-#'''Group 1:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of interviews is different from conventional television. Explain how and whether it applies to ''Soft and Hard''.
+#'''Group 2:''' Penley contends that Sonimage's (Godard and Miéville's production company) analysis of representation "does not extend to questioning certain received metaphorizations of the woman's body: woman as state, as machine of reproduction, as sexuality itself." That is, Sonimage is using the woman's body as a metaphor for sexuality and reproduction. We've discussed Godard's use of the nude female body before -- in ''Vivre sa vie''. How would you compare/contrast the nude pregnant woman in ''F/t/d/d/e'' with the nude women in ''Vivre sa vie''?
 '''Pro-feminist or anti-feminist?'''
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 '''ALL Groups:'''
-#Just because a film is made by a woman does not mean it will necessarily be feminist. Do you think that ''Chocolat'' and/or ''Vagabond'' is pro-feminist? Why or why not?
+#Just because a film is made by a woman does not mean it will necessarily be feminist. Do you think that ''Chocolat'' is pro-feminist? Why or why not?
 #If, indeed, it is a feminist film, into which category does it fit? (These categories may overlap.)
 ##Documentary

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 #'''Group 4:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of silence in his video work is different from conventional television. Explain how and whether it applies to ''Soft and Hard''.
 #'''Group 1:''' Penley argues that Godard's use of interviews is different from conventional television. Explain how and whether it applies to ''Soft and Hard''.
 '''Pro-feminist or anti-feminist?'''

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	#'''Group 3:''' Penley argues, "certain movements and gestures are slowed down and then rapidly, yet haltingly, speeded up (...) so that we can see and understand the economy of these actions." Do you think this applies to <i>Soft and Hard</i>? How are slow motion and freeze frames used in this piece?		#'''Group 3:''' Penley argues, "certain movements and gestures are slowed down and then rapidly, yet haltingly, speeded up (...) so that we can see and understand the economy of these actions." Do you think this applies to <i>Soft and Hard</i>? How are slow motion and freeze frames used in this piece?

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 ==External links==
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/classes/Jbutler/T340/LetterToJane.htm#softandhard ''Soft and Hard'' frame grabs]
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/classes/Jbutler/T340/SoftAndHard_LastShot/index.htm Frame grabs from the last shot of ''Soft and Hard'']
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/classes/Jbutler/T340/Contempt/index.htm Frame grabs from first shot of Godard's ''Contempt'']

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 ==External links==
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/classes/Jbutler/T340/SoftAndHard_LastShot/index.htm Frame grabs from the last shot of ''Soft and Hard'']
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/Classes/Jbutler/T340/Vagabond/index.htm ''Vagabond'' examples]
 *[http://www.tcf.ua.edu/Classes/Jbutler/T577/BrechtIllustrations.htm Godard and Brecht: Godard's Criticism, ''Vivre sa Vie'' & ''Breathless'']
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